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1850's? Hose Cart Make unknown
#1
we need some major information on this piece. We picked this one up on an ebay bid in September 2008 from Greenport, NY. Great trip! Wonderful scenery! This had 5 rolls on 1 1/2 on it with a brass nozzle on it. Is this the hose we need! or do we need 2 1/2? What type nozzles or equipment were used?


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Just guessing here, but 1850's may have still had some leather riveted hose on it. The folks up at the FASNY Museum in Hudson would be able to help. [url="http://www.fasnyfiremuseum.com/contactus.php"]Contact Form[/url] Ask for Paul, I think he's the curator.
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[quote name='hoss' post='295437' date='Apr 8 2009, 11:20 ']Just guessing here, but 1850's may have still had some leather riveted hose on it. The folks up at the FASNY Museum in Hudson would be able to help. [url="http://www.fasnyfiremuseum.com/contactus.php"]Contact Form[/url] Ask for Paul, I think he's the curator.[/quote]



Agree with Ed on the hose. 1-1/2" hose was about 100 years later if this was from 1850.
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#4
I just got the right nozzle in. Now for some hose.
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#5
Leather Firehose @ Manchester, CT Museum - no date in plain view though - sorry.

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Moose,



The Eagle Hose & Hook & Ladder Company No. 6 in Ansonia, CT had thier parade carriage restored to its original state when it was in service with the Eagle Hose Company no. 1 of the New York City Volunteer FD and they also had rivited hose made up for the carriage. If you go to www.eaglehose.com you can see the carriage there with the hose. You might want to contact them who made the hose if you want to go that route.
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Moose, I am by no means an expert on handcarts, but just from looking at the pix of yours, I am willing to bet that it is no where near as old as the 1850's. I would think that something that old would make much more use of wood, for example, wooden spokes in the wheels, a wooden wheel itself (perhaps with a steel "tire") etc etc etc.......Wheels with thin "wire" steel spokes, such as the ones on your cart, were not used until well into the 1900's......I would make a rough guess of the age of your unit to be no earlier than the mid 1930's, or perhaps post WWII. (If it was WWII it would have more wood.)
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[quote name='1958 F.W.D.' date='06 May 2009 - 02:53 PM' timestamp='1241638439' post='303307']

Moose, I am by no means an expert on handcarts, but just from looking at the pix of yours, I am willing to bet that it is no where near as old as the 1850's. I would think that something that old would make much more use of wood, for example, wooden spokes in the wheels, a wooden wheel itself (perhaps with a steel "tire") etc etc etc.......Wheels with thin "wire" steel spokes, such as the ones on your cart, were not used until well into the 1900's......I would make a rough guess of the age of your unit to be no earlier than the mid 1930's, or perhaps post WWII. (If it was WWII it would have more wood.)

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With much research Yes it is from 1930. It was a industrial cart donated to the fire department.
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#10
It's a 1930's industrial and it is possibly a Wirt Knox. Restored!



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